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Title: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: maryjoe on November 01, 2007, 11:08:23 pm
   
 
 
 
 
July 5, 2007  Clip No. 1507 
 
Ahmad Jibril, Secretary-General of the PFLP General Command: I Was Told by Abu Mazen's Team that Arafat Died of AIDS 
 
Following is an excerpt from an interview with Ahmad Jibril, Secretary-General of the PFLP General Command, which aired on Al-Manar TV on July 5, 2007:

Ahmad Jibril: When Abu Mazen came to Damascus with his team, I asked them: "What happened to the investigation into the death of Abu Ammar [Arafat]? The Israelis killed him. He was my colleague ever since 1965 and used to sleep at my home. He and I followed the same path." Is it conceivable that when Rafiq Al-Hariri was killed, all hell broke loose, even though he was just a merchant in Saudi Arabia, who later entered politics, whereas the death of Yasser Arafat, who for 40 years had been carrying his gun from one place to another, is not investigate? Is this conceivable? They were silent, and then one of them said to me: "To be honest, the French gave us the medical report, that stated that the cause of Abu Ammar's death was AIDS." I am not saying this, they did. Now they pretend that they miss Yasser Arafat, and complain that [Hamas] entered his house in [Gaza] and so on... I say to every honorable member of the Fatah movement that he should be happy that we got rid of the plague, which had been imposed upon them and upon the Palestinian people. The Fatah movement now has an opportunity to renew itself.
 
 
 
 
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Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Eliezer Ben Avraham on November 01, 2007, 11:10:33 pm
he way gay too  ;D, not that there is anything wrong with that  ;D, (see the masada2000 page about how he was gay
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Dan on November 01, 2007, 11:12:04 pm
Welcome Maryjoe!
 JTF has been saying this for a few years now... NO ONE in the Media dare to cover this story, ONLY JTF exposed it!
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 01, 2007, 11:19:55 pm
Yitzhak Rabin gave it to him.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 01, 2007, 11:22:44 pm
What's the problem if he was gay and died of AIDS? AIDS is not a shamefull disease!!! To be gay can be considered a violation of the Noahide Laws (if the gay actually has sex with another man). But do you need to say that to bring shame on his damned memory? Isn't it enough to say that he was a terrorist and Jew killer?
I mean, do you think the Jewish lives he took by terror are not worthy enogh to curse Arafat's name forever? Why do you need to add the fact that he may have been gay? Homosexuality is a sin according to Torah ( as idolatry also is). But remember, that noone here rebukes anybody for idolatry!

I say Arafat was a murderer, Ymach Shemo wezichro.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 01, 2007, 11:23:57 pm
Wait, i thought that Arafat died because the Jews poisoned his food!  ::)
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 01, 2007, 11:25:25 pm
What's the problem if he was gay and died of AIDS? AIDS is not a shamefull disease!!! To be gay can be considered a violation of the Noahide Laws (if the gay actually has sex with another man). But do you need to say that to bring shame on his damned memory? Isn't it enoigh to say that he was a terrosust and Jew killer?
I meen, do you think the Jewish lives he took by terror are not worthy enogh to curse Arafat's name forever? Why do you need to add the fact that he may have been gay? Homosexuality is a sin according to Torah ( as idolatry also is). But remember, that noone here rebukes anybody for idolatry!

I say Arafat was a murderer, Ymach Shemo wezichro.

I see your point Raul Marrio. However, the leftists get especially agitated when they hear this about terrorists and Nazis... 
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 01, 2007, 11:25:46 pm
Wait, i thought that Arafat died because the Jews poisoned his food!  ::)

The Jews put AIDS in his falafel!
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on November 01, 2007, 11:27:02 pm
Lots of AIDS bugs jumped up his butt.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on November 01, 2007, 11:33:08 pm
The reason that dying of AIDS should add an additional shame and unending humiliation to the entire PLO NAZI murdering scum, is because it shows the truly unbelievable depths of depravity and less-than-human-being behaviors and practices of this drek monster murderer of Jewish women and children.

I only hope for the day I allow a pack of dogs to dig up his grave and remove that foul unspeakable carcass from Jewish Land.

Any Israeli officials who "approved" of that Satanic fiend bastard being buried in Eretz Yisrael should be immediately executed.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 01, 2007, 11:34:31 pm
The reason that dying of AIDS should add an additional shame and unending humiliation to the entire PLO NAZI murdering scum, is because it shows the truly unbelievable depths of depravity and less-than-human-being behaviors and practices of this drek monster murderer of Jewish women and children.

I only hope for the day I allow a pack of dogs to dig up his grave and remove that foul unspeakable carcass from Jewish Land.

Any Israeli officials who "approved" of that Satanic fiend bastard being buried in Eretz Yisrael should be immediately executed.

Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 01, 2007, 11:40:33 pm
The reason that dying of AIDS should add an additional shame and unending humiliation to the entire PLO NAZI murdering scum, is because it shows the truly unbelievable depths of depravity and less-than-human-being behaviors and practices of this drek monster murderer of Jewish women and children.

I only hope for the day I allow a pack of dogs to dig up his grave and remove that foul unspeakable carcass from Jewish Land.

Any Israeli officials who "approved" of that Satanic fiend bastard being buried in Eretz Yisrael should be immediately executed.

It really hurts me, many good people have also died od AIDS, even children, and many other are HIV+. Do you really think it is a shame? You can catch the virus in an accident. Noone is free form AIDS!!! It would be very cruel and painfull for any HIV+ to read this!!!
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 02, 2007, 07:29:45 am
Wait, i thought that Arafat died because the Jews poisoned his food!  ::)

The Jews put AIDS in his falafel!

I thought it was the lentil soup...but falafel makes more sense.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Husar on November 02, 2007, 07:37:12 am
AIDS was too soft a death for this ARA(b)FAT(ass).

 8;)
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Merkava on November 02, 2007, 09:16:10 am
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The Jews put AIDS in his falafel!
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope Arafat dies slowly and painfully.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Joe Schmo on November 02, 2007, 09:17:11 am
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The Jews put AIDS in his falafel!
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope Arafat dies slowly and painfully.

Not painfully enough!
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Wayne Jude on November 02, 2007, 10:01:14 am
99% of those with AIDS are sick perverts.That is the fact.Sorry, and If you pass it on to your child that is the work of a sick pervert! >:(
Can't feel sorry for them.If you die of cancer and smoked for 60 years ,should I feel sorry for you.NO.let's keep the same standards. ;)
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Ambiorix on November 02, 2007, 10:39:52 am
Even if this holy saint of terrorism died of Aids,
 :::D


 that doesn't bring him back. :-[ :P :-X :-\ :-*


I really miss him,  ;D ;D ;D

 :D :D :D :D :D :D

and I think He was able to bring peace to the ME.
[/b]
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 02, 2007, 11:01:03 am
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The Jews put AIDS in his falafel!
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope Arafat dies slowly and painfully.


no he's been dead..unless that is a typo.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: newman on November 02, 2007, 11:05:17 am
They should stop funding research for AIDS cures immediately. Let fags and junkies die.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Wayne Jude on November 02, 2007, 11:06:22 am
Harsh,VERY harsh!Newman!but right! ;)
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Merkava on November 02, 2007, 01:25:33 pm
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no he's been dead..unless that is a typo.

You mean he is dead ?
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 03, 2007, 11:57:22 pm
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no he's been dead..unless that is a typo.

You mean he is dead ?

Uhh...yeah. It was a pretty big deal.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Joe Schmo on November 04, 2007, 12:37:51 am
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no he's been dead..unless that is a typo.

You mean he is dead ?

Are you a troll?
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: newman on November 04, 2007, 01:29:41 am
His stinking carcass is still defiling the Holy Land. It should be dug up and dropped on mecca!
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 04, 2007, 02:32:02 am
To Christian and Newman, those who offend people for their diseases are cruel.
Today a man here died of AIDS and cancer, both at the same time. I'd want to know if you'd say the same in case one of your familes were HIV+.
Newman if it were for you you'd kill everyone, including me for believing in the Samaritan Torah.
And you Christian, are no help to Israel, you seen a fundamentalist
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: newman on November 04, 2007, 04:54:56 am
To Christian and Newman, those who offend people for their diseases are cruel.
Today a man here died of AIDS and cancer, both at the same time. I'd want to know if you'd say the same in case one of your familes were HIV+.
Newman if it were for you you'd kill everyone, including me for believing in the Samaritan Torah.
And you Christian, are no help to Israel, you seen a fundamentalist


Only if you do it publicly in Israel. Outside the Holy Land I don't care what rubbish you believe in.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Merkava on November 04, 2007, 08:43:06 am
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Are you a troll?

Nope ! Are you that gullible enough to think I wasn't aware that Arafat has been worm food for the last 3 years?
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no he's been dead..unless that is a typo.

 ::) It was indeed...sorry for the confusion
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Merkava on November 04, 2007, 09:41:11 am
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They should stop funding research for AIDS cures immediately. Let fags and junkies die.

This comment is shocking. Aids doesn't discriminate. It knows no colour, ethnicity, social class.

Lets say for whatever reason you were infected with HIV (G-d forbid) - then what ?
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Daniel on November 04, 2007, 01:54:41 pm
Where is the evidence and documentation that he died of AIDS? I've only seen it mentioned by Chaim and forum members. I've never seen any other sources or documentation to back this up. Where does Chaim and the rest of you get your information?

Either way, whether or not he died of AIDS is an irrelevant issue as far as I'm concerned. The important thing is that he's dead!
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 04, 2007, 02:00:37 pm
Where is the evidence and documentation that he died of AIDS? I've only seen it mentioned by Chaim and forum members. I've never seen any other sources or documentation to back this up. Where does Chaim and the rest of you get your information?

Either way, whether or not he died of AIDS is an irrelevant issue as far as I'm concerned. The important thing is that he's dead!

I'm surprised at you, Daniel. You usually do your research.

It was suggested by the NYT.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/12/international/europe/12health.html

Arafat's doctor admits Arafat carried HIV:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/892231.html

Suggested by World Net Daily:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41286
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Daniel on November 04, 2007, 02:17:29 pm
Thanks for the info. These articles seem to speculate more than anything. So it certainly is possible. But either way, the most important issues are that he was a murderous terrorist and that he is now dead.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 04, 2007, 02:32:29 pm
Thanks for the info. These articles seem to speculate more than anything. So it certainly is possible. But either way, the most important issues are that he was a murderous terrorist and that he is now dead.

Speculate? Arafat's own doctor said he had H.I.V. in his blood, but 'poison' killed him.

One of Arafat's former bodyguard attests to his pedophilic rampages in Soviet-bloc countries and relations with the guards.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 04, 2007, 08:26:44 pm
To Christian and Newman, those who offend people for their diseases are cruel.
Today a man here died of AIDS and cancer, both at the same time. I'd want to know if you'd say the same in case one of your familes were HIV+.
Newman if it were for you you'd kill everyone, including me for believing in the Samaritan Torah.
And you Christian, are no help to Israel, you seen a fundamentalist


Only if you do it publicly in Israel. Outside the Holy Land I don't care what rubbish you believe in.

I don't want to offend you, but hoestly it seems to me that you are at least a non brave man. You dare to call the Samaritan Torah a "rubish", just because I may be one of the the very few Goyim who believe in it. And Samaritans themselves are only 750 persons. I imagine you also think the New Testament is "rubish", but you don't dare to say it, just because Christians are millions in number. Would you kill a Catholic going to mass in Israel every Sunday? Why the hell would you kill me for just going ONE DAY to Gerizim?
Regarding AIDS, I advise you to think it better before speaking. What if you get married and have a son/daughter who commits any sexual immorality and gets AIDS? I imagine, thet even though you would disagree with his/her behaviour, you would tell the doctos to try to cure him. So you'd better think before speaking.

Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 08:38:35 pm
To Christian and Newman, those who offend people for their diseases are cruel.
Today a man here died of AIDS and cancer, both at the same time. I'd want to know if you'd say the same in case one of your familes were HIV+.
Newman if it were for you you'd kill everyone, including me for believing in the Samaritan Torah.
And you Christian, are no help to Israel, you seen a fundamentalist


Only if you do it publicly in Israel. Outside the Holy Land I don't care what rubbish you believe in.

I don't want to offend you, but hoestly it seems to me that you are at least a non brave man. You dare to call the Samaritan Tarh a "rubish", just because I may be one of the the very few Goyim who believe in it. And Samaritans themselves are only 750 persons. I imagine you also think the New Testament is "rubish", but you don't dare to say it, just because Christians are millions in number. Would you kill a Catholic going to mass in Israel every Sunday? Why the hell would you kill me fot just going ONE DAY to Gerizim?
Regarding AIDS, I advise you to think it better before speaking. What if you get married and have a son/daughter who commits any sexual immorality and gets AIDS? I imagine, thet even though you would disagree with his/her behaviour, you would tell the doctos to try to cure him. So you'd better think before speaking.


Raulmorro you are joining with the samartians who have attacked the true Torah. they reject the oral law that Hashem gave to Moses. the smartians live with the Arab's, who are anti-jewish, and would kill Jewish people every time they get a chance. The Arab's do not bother the samartians, WHY, because they are not Jewish! they are practicing false Judaism. before you join do some more reseach.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Shlomo on November 04, 2007, 09:03:46 pm
arafat, that sick, murderous piece of garbage died from AIDS because of his lifestyle.

Not everyone who has AIDS is a homosexual. Some innocent kids got AIDS from bad blood transfusions. But on the average (the HUGE majority which is why it used to be called GRID or "Gay-Related Immune Deficiency"), homosexual men (predominately black) are the largest carrier of AIDS. This is partial due to the number of people they had sodomy with. On the average, homosexual men have about 500 partners in a lifetime. Homosexual women have about 3 which is why they don't carry as often.

It wasn't enough that he had sex with other men and raped young boys... that sick, perverted sack of excrement did it all KNOWING he had AIDS. He was an evil murderer in so many ways. That filthy, lying killer of Jewish people died because his own evil rotted and infected him from the inside out.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 04, 2007, 09:07:59 pm
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Raulmorro you are joining with the samartians who have attacked the true Torah. they reject the oral law that Hashem gave to Moses. the smartians live with the Arab's, who are anti-jewish, and would kill Jewish people every time they get a chance. The Arab's do not bother the samartians, WHY, because they are not Jewish! they are practicing false Judaism. before you join do some more reseach.

First of all Samaritans just live among Arabs b/c Gerizim is sorrounded by Arab towns now. They cling to Gerizim, not to Arabs. Millions of them have been massacred by Arabs and Byzantines. The few remaining celebrate Yom Haatzmaut.
I have not come here to duscuss religious issues, and I don't mean to join them. A goy cannot convert to Samaritanism nowadays, and I would not take their strict Laws either. I just learned about them six years ago. I believed in Gerizim long before I knew about them.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: maryjoe on November 04, 2007, 09:26:05 pm
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Raulmorro you are joining with the samartians who have attacked the true Torah. they reject the oral law that Hashem gave to Moses. the smartians live with the Arab's, who are anti-jewish, and would kill Jewish people every time they get a chance. The Arab's do not bother the samartians, WHY, because they are not Jewish! they are practicing false Judaism. before you join do some more reseach.

First of all Samaritans just live among Arabs b/c Gerizim is sorrounded by Arab towns now. They cling to Gerizim, not to Arabs. Millions of them have been massacred by Arabs and Byzantines. The few remaining celebrate Yom Haatzmaut.
I have not come here to duscuss religious issues, and I don't mean to join them. A goy cannot convert to Samaritanism nowadays, and I would not take their strict Laws either. I just learned about them six years ago. I believed in Gerizim long before I knew about them.


Mount Gerizim is only imporatnt to Jews because of what is in Parashat Re'eh. Half the nation stands on it and the other half stands on Mount Eval while they make blessings and curse. The only Jew I heard of that claims that is the real Moriah is the kike Avraham Burg.


If the N word is not allowed kike should not be allowed ether.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 04, 2007, 09:43:43 pm
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Mount Gerizim is only imporatnt to Jews because of what is in Parashat Re'eh. Half the nation stands on it and the other half stands on Mount Eval while they make blessings and curse. The only Jew I heard of that claims that is the real Moriah is the kike Avraham Burg.

If I don't remember badly, Abraham Burg is someone who lives in Israel. He used to report the Israeli news to a Jewish radio program here in Argentina. When I was a teen I called the radio to ask for a Hebrw song I liked, and... there was a technical problem with their phone, and my call was mixed with his report, so I herad his voice.
So, he also believes in Guerizim? I thought no Jews believed in it, except from 3 American Jews, who once wanted to build their own Synagogue for themselves to pray towards Guerizim.
BTW, what do you mean by a "kike"? I just don't know that word, English is not my native language.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Daniel on November 04, 2007, 11:30:35 pm
arafat, that sick, murderous piece of garbage died from AIDS because of his lifestyle.

Not everyone who has AIDS is a homosexual. Some innocent kids got AIDS from bad blood transfusions. But on the average (the HUGE majority which is why it used to be called GRID or "Gay-Related Immune Deficiency"), homosexual men (predominately black) are the largest carrier of AIDS. This is partial due to the number of people they had sodomy with. On the average, homosexual men have about 500 partners in a lifetime. Homosexual women have about 3 which is why they don't carry as often.

It wasn't enough that he had sex with other men and raped young boys... that sick, perverted sack of excrement did it all KNOWING he had AIDS. He was an evil murderer in so many ways. That filthy, lying killer of Jewish people died because his own evil rotted and infected him from the inside out.

500 partners in a lifetime??? Where did you get this information from? The gay guys that I have known were so much more picky and monogamous than anyone else I've ever come across. I'd like to see the source for your information about this claim of 500 partners in a lifetime. I find that claim highly dubious at best.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 05, 2007, 01:34:37 am
To Christian and Newman, those who offend people for their diseases are cruel.
Today a man here died of AIDS and cancer, both at the same time. I'd want to know if you'd say the same in case one of your familes were HIV+.
Newman if it were for you you'd kill everyone, including me for believing in the Samaritan Torah.
And you Christian, are no help to Israel, you seen a fundamentalist


Only if you do it publicly in Israel. Outside the Holy Land I don't care what rubbish you believe in.
I don't want to offend you, but hoestly it seems to me that you are at least a non brave man. You dare to call the Samaritan Torah a "rubish", just because I may be one of the the very few Goyim who believe in it. And Samaritans themselves are only 750 persons. I imagine you also think the New Testament is "rubish", but you don't dare to say it, just because Christians are millions in number. Would you kill a Catholic going to mass in Israel every Sunday? Why the hell would you kill me for just going ONE DAY to Gerizim?
Regarding AIDS, I advise you to think it better before speaking. What if you get married and have a son/daughter who commits any sexual immorality and gets AIDS? I imagine, thet even though you would disagree with his/her behaviour, you would tell the doctors to try to cure him. So you'd better think before speaking.


Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: newman on November 05, 2007, 02:10:53 am
To Christian and Newman, those who offend people for their diseases are cruel.
Today a man here died of AIDS and cancer, both at the same time. I'd want to know if you'd say the same in case one of your familes were HIV+.
Newman if it were for you you'd kill everyone, including me for believing in the Samaritan Torah.
And you Christian, are no help to Israel, you seen a fundamentalist


Only if you do it publicly in Israel. Outside the Holy Land I don't care what rubbish you believe in.

I don't want to offend you, but hoestly it seems to me that you are at least a non brave man. You dare to call the Samaritan Torah a "rubish", just because I may be one of the the very few Goyim who believe in it. And Samaritans themselves are only 750 persons. I imagine you also think the New Testament is "rubish", but you don't dare to say it, just because Christians are millions in number. Would you kill a Catholic going to mass in Israel every Sunday? Why the hell would you kill me for just going ONE DAY to Gerizim?
Regarding AIDS, I advise you to think it better before speaking. What if you get married and have a son/daughter who commits any sexual immorality and gets AIDS? I imagine, thet even though you would disagree with his/her behaviour, you would tell the doctos to try to cure him. So you'd better think before speaking.



I would burn every church to the ground in Israel. Israel is a JEWISH state ONLY.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 05, 2007, 02:31:42 am
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I would burn every church to the ground in Israel. Israel is a JEWISH state ONLY.

Well, I have nothing against churches which have been for centuries in Israel, unless they try to convert Jews.
But don't you think EVERY western country would attack Israel, if it destroyed churches? So if I , who don't aim to remove them, still dislike the West, why do you think JTF still strives to save the Western Civilization?
No matter what political leader handles the West, they will never change their agenda: "Israel "was" the Chosen People, which was replaced by the Church" (Rightist West).
"Judaism is a racist religion who separates Jews from the rest of mankind" (Liberal West)
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Merkava on November 05, 2007, 02:38:21 am
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The reason why homosexual women don't gets AIDS is because the female anatomy doesn't enable them to have homosexual "sex". Otherwise they would get it. Also, female homosexuality isn't punishable by death while male homosexuality is.

I can't beleive people in JTF make statements like that. I have been amazed with the knowledge of history in this forum but when it comes to AIDS you guys need to go back to school. Anyone can get AIDS. It can be transmitted via the exchange of body fluids. Doesn't matter if you are a lesbian, a homosexual or a necrofiliac. All it takes is the exchange of body fluids between two people and you are at risk. If you ask me the people who are at most risk: homosexuals, drug abusers but also the stupid people that think that AIDS is only a problem for junkies & gays
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: newman on November 05, 2007, 02:48:33 am
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The reason why homosexual women don't gets AIDS is because the female anatomy doesn't enable them to have homosexual "sex". Otherwise they would get it. Also, female homosexuality isn't punishable by death while male homosexuality is.

I can't beleive people in JTF make statements like that. I have been amazed with the knowledge of history in this forum but when it comes to AIDS you guys need to go back to school. Anyone can get AIDS. It can be transmitted via the exchange of body fluids. Doesn't matter if you are a lesbian, a homosexual or a necrofiliac. All it takes is the exchange of body fluids between two people and you are at risk. If you ask me the people who are at most risk: homosexuals, drug abusers but also the stupid people that think that AIDS is only a problem for junkies & gays


Most heterosexual AIDS infections (from normal vaginal sex) occur in third world countries or in poorer western communities where they have inferior health care and they suffer higher instances of vinereal diseases. It is through sores, ulcers, fissures that HIV is transferred in heterosexuals because there is blood to blood contact. Anal sex (wether hetro or homo) still poses a great risk.

I've heard senior medical lecturers admit this and state that they are reluctant to divulge these facts lest people think "AIDS is only a gay, black or poor disease". They did state that it is harder for a man to catch AIDS from a woman than the reverse.

In short, it is very rare to catch AIDS through normal, vaginal sex when both parties have NO other vinereal diseases.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 05, 2007, 02:54:42 am
I agree with you Merkavah. And the people who are at the utmost risk are those who have sex with anybody and think they can't be infected just because they are straight.
And for those who hate gays so much, I must say that homosexuality is forbidden by the Torah, but wasting one's seed (using condom is) is also forbidden. And now, if you don't use a condom, you are very likely to get AIDS. So the only Kosher alternative is celibate for singles. Are those who hate gays, ready to accept celibate for singles?
When I was aiming to convert, I was about to take a bus to return from my interview with the Rav, and it was a gay in the street who warned me not to take that bus. He'd just seen I had a Kipah, and there was a gang of neo-nazis at the next stop. Why would I hate him for not following Torah. Many of my friends who are straight also violate Torah by wasting their seed!
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on November 05, 2007, 02:59:38 am
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In short, it is very rare to catch AIDS through normal, vaginal sex when both parties have NO other vinereal diseases.

I wouldn't be so sure, and you shouldn't say that. You encourage people to take a risk. Those who strictly follow the Torah, then just have sex only with his wife, after they both had a test. Those who can't or won't afford that, then better use a condom......But I must say that even with  condom there is still a risk.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: newman on November 05, 2007, 03:14:18 am
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In short, it is very rare to catch AIDS through normal, vaginal sex when both parties have NO other vinereal diseases.

I wouldn't be so sure, and you shouldn't say that. You encourage people to take a risk. Those who strictly follow the Torah, then just have sex only with his wife, after they both had a test. Those who can't or won't afford that, then better use a condom......But I must say that even with  condom there is still a risk.

That is honest, scientific fact. Yes, you're right. It IS witheld because it may encourage promiscuity/ unsafe sex amongst affluent, western hetrosexuals. But facts are facts.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Merkava on November 05, 2007, 06:07:28 am
Well said Raul ...tu si que tienes razon.

JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR ANY ONE CAN GET AIDS ! IF YOU ARE READING THIS FORUM AND YOU ENGAGE IN SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH SOMEONE ELSE PLEASE USE A CONDOM BECAUSE IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE

IF YOU ARE A MUSLIM HAVE AS MUCH UNPROTECTED SEX AS POSSIBLE SPECIALLY IN AFRICA. DON'T WORRY, ALLAH WILL PROTECT YOU.

Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: newman on November 05, 2007, 06:51:53 am
Well said Raul ...tu si que tienes razon.

JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR ANY ONE CAN GET AIDS ! IF YOU ARE READING THIS FORUM AND YOU ENGAGE IN SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH SOMEONE ELSE PLEASE USE A CONDOM BECAUSE IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE

IF YOU ARE A MUSLIM HAVE AS MUCH UNPROTECTED SEX AS POSSIBLE SPECIALLY IN AFRICA. DON'T WORRY, ALLAH WILL PROTECT YOU.



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Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Shlomo on November 06, 2007, 01:39:52 am
Sure, it comes from the thoroughly investigated book called "The Marketing of Evil" by David Kupelian and I highly suggest that everyone read it.

http://www.amazon.com/themarketingofevil

It's good to clean up some of that brainwashing and liberal thinking out of our minds. Don't believe everything the liberal media tells you.

Just read the book. It's an important work that answers most of the arguments about homosexuality and even devotes some time to AIDS.
Title: Re: Arafat Died of AIDS
Post by: Ambiorix on November 06, 2007, 07:59:57 am
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Are those who hate gays, ready to accept celibate for singles?

I think celibate is the only correct way of live next to marriage.
Let me illustrate this: 
The "average" western way of life is, (since the 60-70ties) having  sexual relationships with 10+ partners (as much as possible) in between 15-30 years , and then decide to start marrying and having 1,2 children.
If more boys and girls would marry at the age of 18, and immediately have children (instead of wasting 10 years time),
then we would have more chance of resisting turd world invasion, islamisation, and turd world demographical take-over of the west. AIDS in the West could be more effectively cured by a total stop of importing (illegal)aliens.