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General Discussion / Re: Many blacks support murderer of white woman on Charlotte train (JTF video)

« Last post by Dovid_2 on September 11, 2025, 12:11:00 pm »

The purpose is to ask forgiveness from the person's soul, as Rabbi Weiner quotes and explains.

The son-in-law of Don Astruc Des Gabai, student of Rabbenu Meshulam, disagrees with Rabbi Weiner then.  You cannot ask forgiveness from a person's soul.  The purpose of the quorum and attendance at the person's grave is to compel the sinner to realize his own mortality.  And this is the reason that Geonim generally discourage visiting cemeteries -- because it is damaging to what Aristotle called the "compartments" of the soul (the five compartments are appetitive, nutritive, imaginative, sensitive, and rational).  You're expected to understand some basic philosophy in Judaism and not blindly quote from a book for Gentiles -- and especially not at those with far more knowledge of the faith than you!

I am happy being a Gentile. I do not have to read Hebrew and I do not want to be a Jewish slave with 613 commandments who cannot eat a cheeseburger. It is honorable to be a slave to God, but it is not for me.

I want to have sex all day but also be able to perceive the Shechinah...  Your desire alone does not render the impossible possible.  The two are mutually exclusive.  In fact, the Student writes that one who is engaged in relations too often has his eyes plastered over so that he is "unable to perceive the Shechinah".

You seem to be happily entrenched with the teachings of Rabbi Weiner and Rabbi Schulman, may G-D grant them a long life.  Adept knowledge of halacha does not preclude one from the obligation of acquiring knowledge of G-D.  You seem to suggest that this is the case.  Enjoy your cheeseburgers.

Most Jews respect righteous Gentiles, but you are one of the few with a demonic hatred for Gentiles who left the idolatry of their ancestors.

I hate the kind of Gentile who becomes a complete jerk after becoming a Noahide or converting.  I think he would be better off as a person not having done either of those things.  And yes, I have met many Gentiles like that.  Of course this is going to be the case when we now have our Land.  Where were you during the holocaust?

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General Discussion / Re: Many blacks support murderer of white woman on Charlotte train (JTF video)

« Last post by Hrvatski Noahid on September 11, 2025, 11:54:55 am »

Here is the relevant paragraph in Rambam:

הַחוֹטֵא לַחֲבֵרוֹ וּמֵת חֲבֵרוֹ קֹדֶם שֶׁיְּבַקֵּשׁ מְחִילָה מֵבִיא עֲשָׂרָה בְּנֵי אָדָם וּמַעֲמִידָן עַל קִבְרוֹ וְיֹאמַר בִּפְנֵיהֶם חָטָאתִי לַה' אֱלֹהֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל וְלִפְלוֹנִי זֶה שֶׁכָּךְ וְכָךְ עָשִׂיתִי לוֹ. וְאִם הָיָה חַיָּב לוֹ מָמוֹן יַחֲזִירוֹ לַיּוֹרְשִׁים. לֹא הָיָה יוֹדֵעַ לוֹ יוֹרְשִׁין יַנִּיחֶנּוּ בְּבֵית דִּין וְיִתְוַדֶּה:

You completely misunderstand the purpose of what the Rambam is prescribing.  G-D forbid the Rambam thought that the person is communicating with the dead person at his grave!

This is where your centuries of Christian brainwashing lets you down and you are unable to disassociate bad and mistaken beliefs from the truth.  That... and your coarse intellect.You leave out the part where Judaism reports that G-D offered the Torah to your ancestors and they rejected it.  We accepted it.  Tough noogies, those are the breaks -- as Don Rickles used to say.

The purpose is to ask forgiveness from the person's soul, as Rabbi Weiner quotes and explains.

I am happy being a Gentile. I do not have to read Hebrew and I do not want to be a Jewish slave with 613 commandments who cannot eat a cheeseburger. It is honorable to be a slave to God, but it is not for me.

Most Jews respect righteous Gentiles, but you are one of the few with a demonic hatred for Gentiles who left the idolatry of their ancestors.

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General Discussion / Re: Many blacks support murderer of white woman on Charlotte train (JTF video)

« Last post by Dovid_2 on September 11, 2025, 11:44:05 am »

Rambam, Laws of Repentance chapter 2, writes that if the person who one offended passes away, one should go to the deceased person's grave and ask forgiveness. Is Rambam an uncircumcised Croatian?

Here is the relevant paragraph in Rambam:

הַחוֹטֵא לַחֲבֵרוֹ וּמֵת חֲבֵרוֹ קֹדֶם שֶׁיְּבַקֵּשׁ מְחִילָה מֵבִיא עֲשָׂרָה בְּנֵי אָדָם וּמַעֲמִידָן עַל קִבְרוֹ וְיֹאמַר בִּפְנֵיהֶם חָטָאתִי לַה' אֱלֹהֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל וְלִפְלוֹנִי זֶה שֶׁכָּךְ וְכָךְ עָשִׂיתִי לוֹ. וְאִם הָיָה חַיָּב לוֹ מָמוֹן יַחֲזִירוֹ לַיּוֹרְשִׁים. לֹא הָיָה יוֹדֵעַ לוֹ יוֹרְשִׁין יַנִּיחֶנּוּ בְּבֵית דִּין וְיִתְוַדֶּה:

You completely misunderstand the purpose of what the Rambam is prescribing.  G-D forbid the Rambam thought that the person is communicating with the dead person at his grave!

This is where your centuries of Christian brainwashing lets you down and you are unable to disassociate bad and mistaken beliefs from the truth.  That... and your coarse intellect.

Your ancestors have the merit of becoming literate before mine. Great. Did you hear the part in the video where Chaim opposes Hebrew in America because the national language is English? My national language is Croatian.

You leave out the part where Judaism reports that G-D offered the Torah to your ancestors and they rejected it.  We accepted it.  Tough noogies, those are the breaks -- as Don Rickles used to say.

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General Discussion / Re: Many blacks support murderer of white woman on Charlotte train (JTF video)

« Last post by Hrvatski Noahid on September 11, 2025, 11:30:29 am »

I have it from the Yeshivah of Rabbeinu Meshulam of Lunel from the 14th century that there is no communication between heaven and the sub-lunar realm -- that means to say, the dead cannot contact the living -- and vice versa.

But of course -- you have the great works of the Geonim Rabbi Weiner and Rabbi Schulman from the 21st century that trumps all ancient Jewish wisdom, so I defer to you, an uncircumcised Croatian for my Torah knowledge.

In a cave in the Sinai desert, Moses inscribed some 3800 years ago the Hebrew words "זאת ממשה".  This took place as the proto-Croatians were batting their mates on the head, and dragging them back to the cave to produce their next generation of offspring.  If I ever feel the need to bat a woman on the head for that purpose (G-D forbid!), I will ask you to teach me the language of your ancestors for that purpose.

Rambam, Laws of Repentance chapter 2, writes that if the person who one offended passes away, one should go to the deceased person's grave and ask forgiveness. Is Rambam an uncircumcised Croatian?

Your ancestors have the merit of becoming literate before mine. Great. Did you hear the part in the video where Chaim opposes Hebrew in America because the national language is English? My national language is Croatian.

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General Discussion / Re: Many blacks support murderer of white woman on Charlotte train (JTF video)

« Last post by Dovid_2 on September 11, 2025, 10:49:57 am »

And it is entirely fitting that he should go to the graveside of the person he killed, and ask the person's soul to forgive him."

I have it from the Yeshivah of Rabbeinu Meshulam of Lunel from the 14th century that there is no communication between heaven and the sub-lunar realm -- that means to say, the dead cannot contact the living -- and vice versa.

But of course -- you have the great works of the Geonim Rabbi Weiner and Rabbi Schulman from the 21st century that trumps all ancient Jewish wisdom, so I defer to you, an uncircumcised Croatian for my Torah knowledge.

I speak fluent Croatian. If you want me to communicate in a language you don't understand, let me know.

In a cave in the Sinai desert, Moses inscribed some 3800 years ago the Hebrew words "זאת ממשה".  This took place as the proto-Croatians were batting their mates on the head, and dragging them back to the cave to produce their next generation of offspring.  If I ever feel the need to bat a woman on the head for that purpose (G-D forbid!), I will ask you to teach me the language of your ancestors for that purpose.

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General Discussion / Re: Many blacks support murderer of white woman on Charlotte train (JTF video)

« Last post by Hrvatski Noahid on September 11, 2025, 10:08:32 am »

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/]הלכה_ואין_מורין_כן.

Hopefully you have learned to read Hebrew after all these years.

I do not read Hebrew and I do not get the details of my Torah law from Wikipedia.

From Seven Gates of Righteous Knowledge by Rabbi Weiner and Dr. Schulman, page 151:

"To repent for an extremely grave sin, such as murder, God forbid, the person should change his name, implying that he is no longer the same person as the one who did the sin, and he should exile himself to another place. It is taught in the Hebrew Bible that exile absolves one from sin, because it chastens a person and causes him to become humble and self-effacing."

From the Divine Code, 2nd edition, page 463:

"But if a murderer accomplishes a complete repentance for all of his actions, his prayers are accepted by God, and there is hope for him that he will be forgiven by God on the Day of Judgment. And it is entirely fitting that he should go to the graveside of the person he killed, and ask the person's soul to forgive him."   

I speak fluent Croatian. If you want me to communicate in a language you don't understand, let me know.

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General Discussion / Re: Many blacks support murderer of white woman on Charlotte train (JTF video)

« Last post by Dovid_2 on September 11, 2025, 09:52:24 am »

Who's we? My rabbis teach it publicly. I am allowed to cite it publicly.

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/]הלכה_ואין_מורין_כן.

Hopefully you have learned to read Hebrew after all these years.

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General Discussion / Re: Many blacks support murderer of white woman on Charlotte train (JTF video)

« Last post by Hrvatski Noahid on September 11, 2025, 09:29:05 am »

We do not teach this halacha publicly (that there is repentance for murder) in the manner that you have, just as we do not teach in public the halacha that one may kill an open adulterer like Phinehas killed Zimri.

Please be more careful of what you publish in the future.

Who's we? My rabbis teach it publicly. I am allowed to cite it publicly.

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General Discussion / Re: Many blacks support murderer of white woman on Charlotte train (JTF video)

« Last post by Dovid_2 on September 11, 2025, 09:04:22 am »

To repent for an extremely grave sin, such as murder, God forbid, the person should change his name, implying that he is no longer the same person as the one who did the sin, and he should exile himself to another place. It is taught in the Hebrew Bible that exile absolves one from sin, because it chastens a person and causes him to become humble and self-effacing.

We do not teach this halacha publicly (that there is repentance for murder) in the manner that you have, just as we do not teach in public the halacha that one may kill an open adulterer like Phinehas killed Zimri.

Please be more careful of what you publish in the future.

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General Discussion / Re: Many blacks support murderer of white woman on Charlotte train (JTF video)

« Last post by Hrvatski Noahid on September 10, 2025, 10:57:49 pm »

To repent for an extremely grave sin, such as murder, God forbid, the person should change his name, implying that he is no longer the same person as the one who did the sin, and he should exile himself to another place. It is taught in the Hebrew Bible that exile absolves one from sin, because it chastens a person and causes him to become humble and self-effacing.